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Posted on: 16th Sep 2020 2:43 PM    Quote and Reply


Yup lots of scammers lately seems togoparts infested with these losers. And yep do not click on any link like the one above. More police reports made will rid this scam epidemic. Yes, they are tracking

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Posted on: 6th Nov 2020 7:48 AM    Quote and Reply


wish i read this earlier...i just got scammed of $1290 by +61488892818. Wanted to buy my Brand new Canyon Pathlite 7.0, asked me to request payment from PAYPAL, then used the info PAYPAL sent him to generate an authentic looking note from PAYPAL, saying buyer sent bike+freight+taxes (to ship bike to Philippines), but money is on hold till i remit the freight+taxes to Philippines, then PAYPAL will release the money.....stupid i fell for it!!! Always click reply to suspect emails, the click the email address....it may show paypal, but once you click it it shows something totally different.

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Posted on: 6th Nov 2020 8:52 AM    Quote and Reply


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"Formerly posted by echoo: wish i read this earlier...i just got scammed of $1290 by +61488892818. Wanted to buy my Brand new Canyon Pathlite 7.0, asked me to request payment from PAYPAL, then used the info PAYPAL sent him to generate an authentic looking note from PAYPAL, saying buyer sent bike+freight+taxes (to ship bike to Philippines), but money is on hold till i remit the freight+taxes to Philippines, then PAYPAL will release the money.....stupid i fell for it!!! Always click reply to suspect emails, the click the email address....it may show paypal, but once you click it it shows something totally different."


So sorry to hear, that is a lot of money already.

Reminder to all the buyers to not do initial transfers/deposit via Paypal or Bank Transfers if you do not fully know the users you are in conversation with. These scammers will always try to reason out that they would need to receive the deposits first and usually refuses upfront payment during meetups or cash on deliveries. 

We are also removing these people from the marketplace as much as we could track and spot. Encourage everyone to flag the accounts if you encounter them. Thank you! 

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Posted on: 7th Nov 2020 9:51 AM    Quote and Reply


Thanks...yes $1290 is a lot of money but at least i still have that bike at home, though now i have to relist again ! Beware of numbers begining with +61.....seems this guy has tried to scam before on this platform and i wish i read the earlier threads. his whatsapp profile is a little girl so i assumed was his daughter and seems like a decent person. 

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Posted on: 4th Dec 2020 1:15 AM    Quote and Reply


I just got contacted by the same number. He wanted to buy my Bike. He seem genuine as the questions he asked seem to be from a real buyer. 

[21:18, 12/1/2020] +61 488 892 818: Hello
[21:18, 12/1/2020] +61 488 892 818: Titanium bicycle, Rikulau Master 32Ti. LARGE (55cm)
[21:19, 12/1/2020] +61 488 892 818: still available?
[21:19, 12/1/2020] I R: Hello. Thanks
[21:20, 12/1/2020] I R: Yes, I just listed yesterday
[22:52, 12/1/2020] +61 488 892 818: oh okay
[22:52, 12/1/2020] +61 488 892 818: are you the direct owner or the reseller?
[22:52, 12/1/2020] I R: Reseller
[22:52, 12/1/2020] I R: I got frame set
[22:52, 12/1/2020] I R: And put pike together
[22:53, 12/1/2020] I R: Bike
[22:53, 12/1/2020] I R: All parts new
[23:09, 12/1/2020] I R: I have not used much
[23:42, 12/1/2020] +61 488 892 818: how long have you been using it?
[23:42, 12/1/2020] I R: I have 2 bikes
[23:42, 12/1/2020] +61 488 892 818: i mean, how long have you own the bike
[23:42, 12/1/2020] I R: This one I use little

Then he hit me with the paypal request

[16:13, 12/2/2020] +61 488 892 818: okay, so how do we deal? I’m actually buying it for a friend who is currently in the Philippines as he requested...i'm willing to arrange the shipping of the bike. can accept your offer if we can arrange the shipping. I know some cargo company that can pick it up from your location after payment has been completed.
[16:14, 12/2/2020] I R: You want me to pack up the bike?
[16:15, 12/2/2020] I R: We can discuss how this can be done
[16:16, 12/2/2020] I R: I would need to take to a bike shop for them to pack
[16:16, 12/2/2020] I R: It might be a little extra. Probably $50 but I need to check
[16:18, 12/2/2020] I R: You are not in Singapore?
[18:29, 12/2/2020] I R: Hello
[18:37, 12/2/2020] I R: So how would you like to do this?
[11:35, 12/3/2020] +61 488 892 818: no i would be better to let the agent take care of it
[11:35, 12/3/2020] +61 488 892 818: that won't be necessary
[11:36, 12/3/2020] +61 488 892 818: i just left town on an assignment
[11:37, 12/3/2020] +61 488 892 818: i believe that settle your questions
[11:37, 12/3/2020] +61 488 892 818: about payment, do you have an account with paypal?
[11:43, 12/3/2020] I R: So they just collect bike from me?
[11:44, 12/3/2020] I R: Once you pay, you can arrange for collection.
[11:45, 12/3/2020] I R: Actually, I think I'd prefer a bank transfer
[11:45, 12/3/2020] I R: I can give you my DBS bank account.
[12:46, 12/3/2020] I R: How should I address you?
[12:56, 12/3/2020] +61 488 892 818: sure, i can also transfer directly to your bank account but it would be from my paypal acct which is also technically the same thing...
[12:56, 12/3/2020] +61 488 892 818: hence, i have an account with paypal which is already link to my bank account and i can initiate transfer of any kind with my paypal account, either to your paypal account or to your bank account. i will check the info needed and revert.

It sounded fishy so I google the number and that let me here.

Thank you for posting this and I am sorry you got scammed.

Best

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Posted on: 14th Dec 2020 9:54 PM    Quote and Reply


Quote:
"Formerly posted by echoo: wish i read this earlier...i just got scammed of $1290 by +61488892818. Wanted to buy my Brand new Canyon Pathlite 7.0, asked me to request payment from PAYPAL (help: paypal phone number usa), then used the info PAYPAL sent him to generate an authentic looking note from PAYPAL, saying buyer sent bike+freight+taxes (to ship bike to Philippines), but money is on hold till i remit the freight+taxes to Philippines, then PAYPAL will release the money.....stupid i fell for it!!! Always click reply to suspect emails, the click the email address....it may show paypal, but once you click it it shows something totally different."


I was almost scammed too. Sorted it out in time. Anyway, thanks for your experience. I hope that there is karma and such people will get what they deserve.

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Posted on: 16th Mar 2021 9:13 PM    Quote and Reply


I got contacted by a guy who tried the same scam as the one that you describe in this thread.   his ID on this site is eddy11.   the name he is using is Tay Dong Long.  And his phone number is +61451266415.  

He wanted to pay me on paypal and ship the bike to the philippines.   I refused to accept payment via paypal and insisted on paying via PayNow or through Carousell (where my bike is also listed).  He refused to do this and he became quite rude.   

Be careful.  

Below is a transcipt on the messages we exchanged on whatsapp.  

[9:13 AM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: Hello
[9:14 AM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: New!!! Bianchi Via Nirone 7 Claris 57 cm
[9:14 AM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: i just saw your message
[9:14 AM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: thanks for the video by the way
[9:14 AM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: so how long have you been using the bike?
[9:31 AM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Hi. It’s brand new. Unused.
[9:31 AM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Never ridden.
[9:32 AM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: I bought it from a Bianchi retailer in Brooklyn, New York. It arrived last week. It’s slightly too big for me (I’ve ordered a 55cm which arrives this week) so I’m selling it.
[9:35 AM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: How tall are you?
[11:13 AM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: 174cm
[11:13 AM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: noted
[11:14 AM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: apart from the bike, any accessories? or just the bike alone
[12:03 PM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: It comes with lights and a bell! ????
[12:26 PM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: haha okay
[12:26 PM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: what is your asking price again
[12:32 PM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: 2500
[3:50 PM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: best price?
[4:00 PM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: 2500
[10:19 PM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: haha okay, so how do we deal? I'm actually buying it for a friend, currently studying aviation in the Philippines. i'm willing to arrange the shipping of the bike. i can accept your offer if we can arrange the shipping, i know some cargo company that can pick it up from your location upon completion of payment
[10:20 PM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: how do we go about payment?
[10:20 PM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: i normally use paypal
[10:20 PM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: we can proceed if it fine with you
[10:20 PM, 3/15/2021] +61 451 266 415: mind sending some random photos
[10:36 PM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Sure. I’m happy to be paid via PayPal. Or you can pay me via Carousell.
[10:38 PM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1r7c0efHlRUbQDPetfKBd6w7MSbFHmJgh

There are loads of photos here
[10:49 PM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Where are you based?
[10:49 PM, 3/15/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Oh btw. How tall is your friend?
[12:08 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: 178.
[12:09 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: good. Just go to your paypal account, find where it says "request money" click on it and follow up, send me the request of the total cost to [email protected]"> [email protected]
[8:22 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: done?
[8:58 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Good morning!
[9:01 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: There you go
[9:03 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: That should be good for this bike
[9:05 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: okay, i will check my email and revert
[9:34 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Before we transact can I ask that we do a verification?
[9:35 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Please add me on social media
[9:36 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: And send me a copy of your:
- passport or Identify card
- a document (e.g. bank statement or utility bill) which confirms your home address.
[9:42 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Please also send me your user ID on Carousell / Togoparts (whichever platform you found me)? Thanks
[9:50 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Please do the verification actions above before sending the money. Thanks
[9:56 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: if i may ask for what purpose? once i completed the transfer and it was confirmed...why do you need all the info? and for what reason because it make no sense. you even ask of my bank statement, are you kidding me? i can send my IC but if you dont mind, can you send the front and back of your ID? if you're local you would have know it against the law to send your IC out especially online but i don't mind providing you send yours first, front and back copy
[10:07 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: thanks. i just want to make sure we both are happy with each other's situation.
[10:07 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: i'll send you what you ask
[10:07 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: on some work calls now. i'll reply before noon singapore time.
[10:07 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: thanks
[10:22 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: for your information, am also local
[10:47 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Ah, OK. I didn't know that. In that case, would it be OK if you pay me via PayNow (not PayPal)?
[10:48 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: This is my IC
[10:49 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Back of my IC
[10:51 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: sure
[10:51 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: hold on
[10:52 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: I hope you don't mind sharing like this. In Singapore we hear a lot of warnings about the risks of transaction and sending money on line with people we've not met. By doing this, I hope we can both be comfortable.
[10:52 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Since you're in Singapore, I'm also happy to meet face-to-face
[10:56 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: do you mind sending the front and back as i have just did
[10:56 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: clear copy
[10:56 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: full ID
[11:00 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Is that OK?
[11:01 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Since we’re both in Singapore would it be OK if we don’t use PayPal but use PayNow for the payment? Thanks
[11:15 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: you can see me online here: https://www.instagram.com/anthonyhoulahan/
[11:18 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: I've cancelled the paypal request. thanks
[11:19 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: Please let me know if there's anything further you want from me. thanks
[11:21 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: yea, it would be more easy but i wont be able to to because i'm currently not in town.
[11:22 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: it was in my spam email folder
[11:22 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: ahhh. i see. i notice that your number is an australian number. you're overseas now?
[11:22 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: yes and that is the reason for the arrangement
[11:24 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: i got a response from the shipping agent earlier. s note that, i would also be adding extra funds for the courier/shipping fees, pickup & shipping service who would be coming to your location right after we complete the payment transaction. (at your convenient time)
[11:24 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: It's OK. I cancelled the paypal request since we'd not yet 'verified' one another. people i know who work in finance have advised me not to use paypal for this kind of thing. they recommend either sending the money via PayNow or doing the transaction through Carousell.
[11:26 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: https://www.carousell.sg/p/new-bianchi-via-nirone-7-claris-57cm-1074262070/?t-id=29440956_1615349086565&t-referrer_browse_type=categories&t-referrer_category_id=1902&t-referrer_request_id=iopZ4BRxiOzulelk&t-referrer_sort_by=popular&t-tap_index=2 this is the ad for the bike on Carousell
[11:28 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: do they really know how paypal works?
[11:28 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: maybe your friend or whoever advice you has no idea
[11:28 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: and why is payment a big deal
[11:28 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: ?
[11:29 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: am the one initiating the payment
[11:29 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: so?
[11:30 AM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: sorry. I'm not comfortable using paypal. my friend told me he sold and shipped a laptop to someone and then the payment later got reversed and he didn't get paid. this person works in finance too. hence i trust him.
[11:32 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: how can a money that has already been send to your account be reversed
[11:32 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: are you kidding me
[11:32 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: better keep my IC SAFE BRO
[11:33 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: anyway, i have our conversation as proof
[11:33 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: i wander what you are scared of
[11:33 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: after getting my IC
[11:33 AM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: you still talking nonsense
[4:09 PM, 3/16/2021] Anthony Houlahan: It’s ok. I don’t think it’s nonsense. I am not comfortable receiving payment via PayPal. This is because I have been advised not to by people that I trust. I have been advised to receive payment via PayNow or through Carousell. If you’re comfortable paying me via PayNow or through Carousell we can proceed. Thank you.
[4:12 PM, 3/16/2021] +61 451 266 415: do you even realize that you're not selling a car

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Posted on: 2nd Apr 2021 9:57 AM    Quote and Reply


Thanks for all the sharing of info in this forum. It is really helpful to ensure the interest of all.


 


I also receive the whatsapp from +61 451 266 415


Sounds very genuine. But one thing I learn is, STOP, CHECK / VERIFY, RESPOND

So I decided to do a check here. So just to share the chat content for all the take note. Godo thing is there has been no dealing with the person.


 


[16:01, 31/03/2021] +61 451 266 415: am currently out of town to inspect our overseas branches

[16:02, 31/03/2021] +61 451 266 415: apart from the bike what else come with it?

[16:02, 31/03/2021] +61 451 266 415: any accessories or just the bike alone?

[16:12, 31/03/2021] +61 451 266 415: what is your asking price again?

[16:17, 31/03/2021] Soo Kum Hon: S$1450

[21:12, 31/03/2021] +61 451 266 415: is that your best price?

[07:08, 01/04/2021] Soo Kum Hon: Morning. Yes. $1450 is my best price

[11:12, 01/04/2021] +61 451 266 415: so how do we deal?I'm actually buying it for my son as his birthday gift, currently studying aviation in the Philippines, he's a bike lover. i'm willing to arrange the shipping of the bike...

[11:13, 01/04/2021] +61 451 266 415: i can accept your offer if we can arrange the shipping, i know some cargo company that can pick it up from your location upon completion of payment

[13:25, 01/04/2021] +61 451 266 415: are you okay with the arrangement?

[13:26, 01/04/2021] +61 451 266 415: if ever we can proceed with payment

[18:42, 01/04/2021] +61 451 266 415: any update?

[19:36, 01/04/2021] Soo Kum Hon: Hi, sorry for late reply. Just finish my meeting.

Thanks for the interest. I have a few questions:-

1. How will you be making payment to me?
2. Are we meeting up?
3. How do you intend to pick up the bike from me?
4. If you are arranging for a cargo company to pick it up, are they going to pick up the whole bike or are they going to dismantle the bike at my place and them pack, ship the bike parts?

[21:09, 01/04/2021] +61 451 266 415: regarding your first question, i normally use paypal. as i said earlier we can proceed if its fine with you

[21:11, 01/04/2021] +61 451 266 415: also, regarding your second question, we would have to schedule date and time for pickup which would be after payment has been completed

[21:12, 01/04/2021] +61 451 266 415: the bike would be pick as whole

[21:12, 01/04/2021] +61 451 266 415: so you don't have to dismantle

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Posted on: 9th Apr 2021 3:27 PM    Quote and Reply


I have also received the scam message from this caller +61 451 266 415 having the exact conversation 

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